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Revolution Rising
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Posted - 2012.02.29 23:48:00 -
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Great Guide.
Trebor, Seleene and Two Step are definitely the 3 candidates who will receive my votes.
Past Work on the CSM as well as a good understanding of game mechanics and a passion to move more change through the CSM are some of the positive qualities that all 3 share in my opinion.
Of course after saying that, if they get led around by particular candidates and if they fail to represent some of the change that is really needed now - they are going to hurt next year.
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Revolution Rising
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Posted - 2012.03.01 00:38:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Wow, and now we are down to personal attacks.
I am also a two time elected to the CSM candidate and have 8 years committed to Eve. I've run a mining corp for over six years and an alliance for 5 years. I've experienced all aspects of Eve and proved in the past I am committed to the Eve community. I have a background in software engineering (42 years) and direct games industry experience.
To claim voting for me is a wasted vote and support for me is "sympathy" is both wrong and insulting.
So miner's don't accept that your voices are unimportant and vour support is just sympathy.
And to everyone else reading this nonsense "guide" ask yourself how Trebor made your life in Eve better recently. I expect you'll be struggling to find an answer.
Issler Dainze
The Miner's Friend
CSM 7 Candidate
I would agree with this. Of all the changes that have been made over the past year by the CSM input, almost all of it has nerfed industry and buffer 0.0 in wasteful ways. I wonder just how much "drinking beer in iceland" and how little "pushing real change" has gone on.
We have now got t3 battlecruisers which are basically useless for anyone not in 0.0.
We have balance and change looked at for large fleet fighting, but nothing for industry or non-political groups.
More Nerfs for empire POS base manufacturing - which in turn means a buff for t2 bpo holders.
The main problem CCP faces with this entire "CSM" idea is that non-political groups don't get a voice.
The few who do seem to want to stand for those smaller non-political groups seem to make little or no headway in these issues.
I don't think anyone - even in empire - wants to see spaceships take a huge backseat, but SOME headway must be made on - and I think we're almost there to be honest - recreating the entire industrial base of eve online.
Every change for the past 4-5 years has nerfed industry in some way. Some reports show 2/3rds of mining is bot/afk based.
Plenty of games over the past couple of years have professed to be "sandboxes" but offered little in the way of anything but combat. (Darkfall online, Mortal Online). They have died because they lacked the holistic view of the game. They concentrated just on combat and ended up with a game that just didn't deliver the full range of activities that a sandbox needs to keep players interested.
Don't allow EvE to go down the same road - no matter how reasonable it might seem to continue just updating the "spaceships" and leaving the "carebears" to deal with it.
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Revolution Rising
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Posted - 2012.03.01 00:57:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Revolution Rising wrote:Every change for the past 4-5 years has nerfed industry in some way. Some reports show 2/3rds of mining is bot/afk based. Which reports show that Gàö of mining is bot based? Why is AFK mining bad? Come chat about industry with Seleene and myself on our respective blogs.
Report from a high-sec ganker.
(Sorry that is actually to a post of mine where I quote them, but the link is in there for their original post).
You have to admit, that even coming from someone who is ganking these guys and finding so many botters - is a bad sign. And really just an additional sign that CCP isn't working too hard at finding these botters.
AFK mining isn't really that bad, but does still detract from the entire idea of multiplayer at all. And the fact that it can be done AFK while almost all other activities can't be done AFK is an inbalance and an additional reason it should be changed to help stop the ease with which these programs can be written for botting.
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Revolution Rising
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Posted - 2012.03.01 01:49:00 -
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I'm really hoping to get Seleene, Two Step and Trebor back in with my votes and votes of some people close to me.
I really think they are the best bet for change in eve, which is sorely needed - not a change away from 0.0 or a change away from PVP - but a change to INCLUDE a bunch of other things.
Wormholes, FW, Industry, Market, Low-sec, all of these mechanics, gameplay types and issues require refining, thinking about and improvement. Perhaps they will also look at the mechanics behind 100MN Tengu's and Tracking Titans.
We've had maybe 3-4 years now of PVP changes, New ships, new mechanics for POS's and I think we're on Sov version 4.1 (confirm? lol) and still no change in the aforementioned topics.
These are the things I HOPE Seleene, Two Step and Trebor can start to tackle if re-elected. They all have experience, level heads and above all passion for the game, CCP and CSM.
I really hope others will vote with me. But if not, I would never call any candidate a joke vote or wasted vote.
In turn I really hope the CSM who DOES get elected, looks at the voting afterwards and takes a good look at what other candidates stood for and got votes for.
Those voice still need to be heard even if they didn't get a candidate elected.
If the CSM election process has a flaw - that is it. And I am sure these candidates are aware of that fact more than any other.
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Revolution Rising
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Posted - 2012.03.01 05:07:00 -
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Perhaps you should do a search before you say I haven't proposed ideas ;)
That is one, that I could easily find. These posts aren't exactly hidden.
This isn't really the place for those conversations, this is a place for reflection on the candidates and their relation to the issues.
If you wish to try and say that t3 battlecruisers are great ideas to use under low-sec gate guns, or that eve is better off without an industrial expansion.. EVER. Perhaps you should try and make those points in the appropriate places?
Or perhaps your point was that ... oh in fact you didn't make one.
In fact perhaps it was just to be stupid by attacking someone who has wholeheartedly agreed with the fact that the Dirt Nap candidate should be voted for?
Nice job. I'm glad you had the chance to **** up the thread like this. 
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